Comments for Haverhill Community Church http://www.haverhillcc.org Haverhill Community Church is located in Haverhill,MA and exists to see, savor, and show forth the glory of God in Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit as a vibrant, holistic, and biblical 21st century church. Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:23:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on (Sermon) God’s Call to Unity in the Church (Eph.4:1-16) by Adam http://www.haverhillcc.org/gods-call-to-unity-in-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-203 Adam Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:23:24 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=250#comment-203 I don't see it. Christianity has been a lonely walk with God, especially among the saved. I don’t see it. Christianity has been a lonely walk with God, especially among the saved.

]]> Comment on (Audio) Brief Survey of the Bible by James Cofer http://www.haverhillcc.org/brief-survey-of-the-bible/comment-page-1/#comment-193 James Cofer Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:14:45 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=100#comment-193 Thank you so much for the brief survey! It has really helped me to teach a class of the fundamentals of the faith. What a blessing! May our Father continue to bless you! James Thank you so much for the brief survey! It has really helped me to teach a class of the fundamentals of the faith. What a blessing!

May our Father continue to bless you!

James

]]> Comment on (Audio) Genesis Part 10 by Dave http://www.haverhillcc.org/genesis-part-10/comment-page-1/#comment-192 Dave Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:53:10 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=233#comment-192 Hi Robin, My name is Dave Herring, I am the webmaster and pastoral intern at Haverhill Community Church. I wanted to thank you for your kind comments about the Genesis class I've been teaching on Wednesdays as you've been tuning in online. Your words are very encouraging to me personally, and we are thankful you took the time to write up such a lengthy comment (it is rare to have that kind of thoughtfulness in our day!). I am very familiar with Dr. Hugenberger's teaching on Abraham and the "lies" to Pharaoh and Abimelech since I took both "Christ in the OT" and "Theology of the Pentateuch" at Gordon-Conwell back in 2003-2004. I even purchased the "Theology of the Pentateuch" Semlink class last year, and I have a stash of the bootlegged audio from "Christ in the OT" that I still listen to time and again. I love Dr. Hugenberger and I consider him to be one of the most influential biblical-theological teachers that I have ever had. As a matter of fact, I would not even have taught a class like this had it not been for his classes. Regarding his argumentation about the inheritance practices in the ANE, and it's bearing on these narratives, I find it to be keen and brilliant as an angle of approach. It does seem rather odd how the Pharaoh brings Sarah into his court, but then again, we don't have all the details as to how it worked out. However, at this point I am not convinced that this exonerates Abraham. It is clear from the text that Abraham was afraid that he would be killed on account of his wife and therefore he did what he did. That being said, he was not believing in the promise of 12:1-7 in that moment of his life. My effort in the class was to show that he sinned very similarly to Adam in the garden as Abraham, like Noah, is a "New Adam" figure in the story-line. Dr. Hugenberger's important thoughts are well-noted in my mind, and I plan to revisit them each time I go through Genesis (I plan many more ventures in my life!!!). Robin, thanks again for the comment, and may the Lord continue to bless you and the saints at Christ Church. Warmly, Dave Hi Robin,

My name is Dave Herring, I am the webmaster and pastoral intern at Haverhill Community Church. I wanted to thank you for your kind comments about the Genesis class I’ve been teaching on Wednesdays as you’ve been tuning in online. Your words are very encouraging to me personally, and we are thankful you took the time to write up such a lengthy comment (it is rare to have that kind of thoughtfulness in our day!).

I am very familiar with Dr. Hugenberger’s teaching on Abraham and the “lies” to Pharaoh and Abimelech since I took both “Christ in the OT” and “Theology of the Pentateuch” at Gordon-Conwell back in 2003-2004. I even purchased the “Theology of the Pentateuch” Semlink class last year, and I have a stash of the bootlegged audio from “Christ in the OT” that I still listen to time and again. I love Dr. Hugenberger and I consider him to be one of the most influential biblical-theological teachers that I have ever had. As a matter of fact, I would not even have taught a class like this had it not been for his classes. Regarding his argumentation about the inheritance practices in the ANE, and it’s bearing on these narratives, I find it to be keen and brilliant as an angle of approach. It does seem rather odd how the Pharaoh brings Sarah into his court, but then again, we don’t have all the details as to how it worked out. However, at this point I am not convinced that this exonerates Abraham. It is clear from the text that Abraham was afraid that he would be killed on account of his wife and therefore he did what he did. That being said, he was not believing in the promise of 12:1-7 in that moment of his life. My effort in the class was to show that he sinned very similarly to Adam in the garden as Abraham, like Noah, is a “New Adam” figure in the story-line. Dr. Hugenberger’s important thoughts are well-noted in my mind, and I plan to revisit them each time I go through Genesis (I plan many more ventures in my life!!!).

Robin, thanks again for the comment, and may the Lord continue to bless you and the saints at Christ Church.

Warmly,

Dave

]]> Comment on (Sermon) Jesus, Teach Us to Pray by luvpops http://www.haverhillcc.org/jesus-teach-us-to-pray/comment-page-1/#comment-191 luvpops Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:41:23 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=237#comment-191 THE MIGHTY CASEY FROM MUDVILLE HAS JUST STRUCK OUT AND WALKED INTO YOUR SUNDAY MORNING SERVICE WITHOUT TAKING A SHOWER,......... UNDER HIS BREATH HE IS MURMURING............ 'HELP....HELP ME' LUVPOPS THE MIGHTY CASEY FROM MUDVILLE HAS JUST STRUCK OUT AND WALKED INTO YOUR SUNDAY MORNING SERVICE WITHOUT TAKING A SHOWER,………
UNDER HIS BREATH HE IS MURMURING…………

‘HELP….HELP ME’

LUVPOPS

]]> Comment on (Audio) Genesis Part 10 by Robin Davis http://www.haverhillcc.org/genesis-part-10/comment-page-1/#comment-190 Robin Davis Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:30:54 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=233#comment-190 Dear Haverhill Community Church, A friend referred me to your website, specifically the series on Genesis, as I am teaching a class Sunday mornings at our church, Christ Church of Hamilton and Wenham. Please pass this on to the pastor who teaches the class. It is meaty and excellent! I wanted to share something I learned in Gordon Hugenberger's Theology of the Pentateuch class concerning Abraham's "lie" to Pharaoh and Abimelech. New evidence has come to light which gives a totally positive interpretation to what Abraham did, and which shows that Abraham was in fact doing his best to protect Sarah and to keep himself alive for her sake. I have class notes I could email if that might be helpful. We all know Abraham was a sinner - like us - but Scripture never condemns Abraham for this ploy, and in fact he is sent out with much wealth and God actually punishes Pharaoh and Abimelech with plagues, etc. The key to interpretation is that in Northern Mesopotamia, where A. was from, sisters did not inherit from brothers. So if Pharaoh had married Sarah, he would not thereby acquire Abraham's wealth if and when Abraham died. Sarah was "taken" - abducted, as it were - not the expected protocol of Pharaoh approaching Abraham and asking for his "sister's" hand. Had he done what was expected and typical, A then would have told him, "Oh,no, you can't marry her because she is my wife." End of discussion. Pharaoh would have wanted S because S and A were clearly very wealthy (318 men in their household, cities named after their relatives, etc.) Anyway, nowhere in Scripture is Abraham condemned for his action, and women are commended who submit to their husbands as Sarah did. A did what was right - not tell a lie and ask his wife to go along with it. She was both wife and sister; putting the "sister" part first would help preserve both of their lives. Ordinarily this strategy would have worked as they traveled around; but in the 3 cases we have in Genesis (A & S, plus Isaac) it didn't - because Pharaoh and Abimelech did the outrageous thing of "taking" these women. Their virtue was protected for a time, however, because the women would have had months of beauty treatments, etc., as Esther did. In the mean time God vindicated them. If you want my notes, I'd be happy to share. Gordon Hugenberger was quoting some new discoveries which are reported in some article - don't have the title here. Again, many thanks for your wonderful teaching and for making it available on the web. Sincerely, Robin Davis Dear Haverhill Community Church,
A friend referred me to your website, specifically the series on Genesis, as I am teaching a class Sunday mornings at our church, Christ Church of Hamilton and Wenham. Please pass this on to the pastor who teaches the class. It is meaty and excellent!
I wanted to share something I learned in Gordon Hugenberger’s Theology of the Pentateuch class concerning Abraham’s “lie” to Pharaoh and Abimelech. New evidence has come to light which gives a totally positive interpretation to what Abraham did, and which shows that Abraham was in fact doing his best to protect Sarah and to keep himself alive for her sake. I have class notes I could email if that might be helpful. We all know Abraham was a sinner – like us – but Scripture never condemns Abraham for this ploy, and in fact he is sent out with much wealth and God actually punishes Pharaoh and Abimelech with plagues, etc. The key to interpretation is that in Northern Mesopotamia, where A. was from, sisters did not inherit from brothers. So if Pharaoh had married Sarah, he would not thereby acquire Abraham’s wealth if and when Abraham died. Sarah was “taken” – abducted, as it were – not the expected protocol of Pharaoh approaching Abraham and asking for his “sister’s” hand. Had he done what was expected and typical, A then would have told him, “Oh,no, you can’t marry her because she is my wife.” End of discussion. Pharaoh would have wanted S because S and A were clearly very wealthy (318 men in their household, cities named after their relatives, etc.) Anyway, nowhere in Scripture is Abraham condemned for his action, and women are commended who submit to their husbands as Sarah did. A did what was right – not tell a lie and ask his wife to go along with it. She was both wife and sister; putting the “sister” part first would help preserve both of their lives. Ordinarily this strategy would have worked as they traveled around; but in the 3 cases we have in Genesis (A & S, plus Isaac) it didn’t – because Pharaoh and Abimelech did the outrageous thing of “taking” these women. Their virtue was protected for a time, however, because the women would have had months of beauty treatments, etc., as Esther did. In the mean time God vindicated them. If you want my notes, I’d be happy to share. Gordon Hugenberger was quoting some new discoveries which are reported in some article – don’t have the title here.
Again, many thanks for your wonderful teaching and for making it available on the web.
Sincerely,
Robin Davis

]]> Comment on (Sermon) Fitting Praise to God (Eph. 1:3-14) by luvpops http://www.haverhillcc.org/fitting-praise-to-god/comment-page-1/#comment-171 luvpops Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:43:17 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=210#comment-171 THE LORD BE PRAISED DAN....... XLENT MESSAGE THE LORD LAID ON HIS PEOPLE.. LUVPOPS THE LORD BE PRAISED DAN…….

XLENT MESSAGE THE LORD LAID ON HIS PEOPLE..

LUVPOPS

]]> Comment on (Sermon) Jesus Creates a New Community by luvpops http://www.haverhillcc.org/jesus-creates-a-new-community/comment-page-1/#comment-136 luvpops Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:27:46 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=148#comment-136 JESUS HAS DONE WHAT WE COULD NEVER DO: LIVE FOR US DIE FOR US ENCOURAGE US RISE FOR US CALL US OUT OF THE TOMB AND GIVE US LIFE THANX DAN JESUS HAS DONE WHAT WE COULD NEVER DO:

LIVE FOR US
DIE FOR US
ENCOURAGE US
RISE FOR US

CALL US OUT OF THE TOMB
AND GIVE US LIFE

THANX DAN

]]> Comment on (Sermon) The Connection of Preaching and Teaching by luvpops http://www.haverhillcc.org/the-connection-of-preaching-and-teaching/comment-page-1/#comment-128 luvpops Mon, 04 May 2009 17:35:52 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=130#comment-128 SCRIPTURE CAME LIKE A FLOOD....and this is all I can think of............. CREAMY, COOL, SOFT, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM COVERING ME FROM HEAD TO TOE.... AS I STOOD ON A CRACKED DRY HOT DESERT FLOOR AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! The Lord is so kind! SCRIPTURE CAME LIKE A FLOOD….and this is all I can think of………….

CREAMY, COOL, SOFT, CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM
COVERING ME FROM HEAD TO TOE….

AS I STOOD ON A CRACKED DRY HOT DESERT FLOOR

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

The Lord is so kind!

]]> Comment on (Video) U2 Performing “Magnificent” by Kevin http://www.haverhillcc.org/u2-performing-magnificent/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Kevin Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:17:20 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=117#comment-41 Cool. I never have been a big U2 fan because all the songs seem to sound the same, and this one is no different. But it is cool, nonetheless. Cool. I never have been a big U2 fan because all the songs seem to sound the same, and this one is no different. But it is cool, nonetheless.

]]> Comment on (Quote) Strong Desires for the Glory of God by Kevin http://www.haverhillcc.org/strong-desires-for-the-glory-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-32 Kevin Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:57:50 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=109#comment-32 I wasn't trying to be argumentative or correct Piper, just interact with the quote. I don't think he's wrong, he just made me think about something. It was at the part about "these replace an appetite for God" that made me think of which appetite came first. It is a pulling back to previous controlling affections that is the danger. Not that fame and power aren't dangers, they're just in your face and easier to be seen. I think he's right when he says that the land, oxen, wife are the real dangers, because they are more submerged under the water. I was just reminded while reading that I was born with those affections, lived with them ruling for years, and that makes it easier to be pulled back in to them and let them become my trust and hope. Isn't this what happens when we quote on our blogs? We cite something succinct and to the point that illustrates a pithy truth, and then some guy comes along and trails off the path down some other direction? It's what I love about blogs... I wasn’t trying to be argumentative or correct Piper, just interact with the quote. I don’t think he’s wrong, he just made me think about something.

It was at the part about “these replace an appetite for God” that made me think of which appetite came first. It is a pulling back to previous controlling affections that is the danger. Not that fame and power aren’t dangers, they’re just in your face and easier to be seen. I think he’s right when he says that the land, oxen, wife are the real dangers, because they are more submerged under the water. I was just reminded while reading that I was born with those affections, lived with them ruling for years, and that makes it easier to be pulled back in to them and let them become my trust and hope.

Isn’t this what happens when we quote on our blogs? We cite something succinct and to the point that illustrates a pithy truth, and then some guy comes along and trails off the path down some other direction? It’s what I love about blogs…

]]> Comment on (Quote) Strong Desires for the Glory of God by Dave http://www.haverhillcc.org/strong-desires-for-the-glory-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-29 Dave Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:35:33 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=109#comment-29 yes, Kevin, you are correct (and we know who you are!!). the author of the quote presupposes this and is writing for Christians, as Christians have been awakened and enlivened to the greatest Treasure. in this quote, does the author ever say or imply that this appetite is within ourselves? i don't believe so, seeing as he used "passive" language like "a desire for God is <em>awakened</em> in their hearts". but, that's not really the point he is trying to make in the quote we cited. rather, he is making the point the it's the ordinary, everyday gifts of God in our lives that are the real competition for our pleasure; whereas most people think it is extraordinary things like fame, wealth, or power. but your point is well taken and necessary to be made along the way to his point. yes, Kevin, you are correct (and we know who you are!!). the author of the quote presupposes this and is writing for Christians, as Christians have been awakened and enlivened to the greatest Treasure. in this quote, does the author ever say or imply that this appetite is within ourselves? i don’t believe so, seeing as he used “passive” language like “a desire for God is awakened in their hearts”. but, that’s not really the point he is trying to make in the quote we cited. rather, he is making the point the it’s the ordinary, everyday gifts of God in our lives that are the real competition for our pleasure; whereas most people think it is extraordinary things like fame, wealth, or power.

but your point is well taken and necessary to be made along the way to his point.

]]> Comment on (Quote) Strong Desires for the Glory of God by Kevin http://www.haverhillcc.org/strong-desires-for-the-glory-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-28 Kevin Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:59:55 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=109#comment-28 But isn't it really that the desire and hunger for God is the new appetite? Aren't we all born with no appetite for Him at all? And isn't it totally impossible for us within ourselves to change that appetite, being perfectly natural for us to continue choosing to eat the same empty food of wife,land, oxen? But isn’t it really that the desire and hunger for God is the new appetite? Aren’t we all born with no appetite for Him at all? And isn’t it totally impossible for us within ourselves to change that appetite, being perfectly natural for us to continue choosing to eat the same empty food of wife,land, oxen?

]]> Comment on (Quote) Strong Desires for the Glory of God by danny http://www.haverhillcc.org/strong-desires-for-the-glory-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-27 danny Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:49:38 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=109#comment-27 that is such a different and refreshing perspective...very helpful and inspiring. thanks for posting this! danny that is such a different and refreshing perspective…very helpful and inspiring.
thanks for posting this!
danny

]]> Comment on (Sermon) The Great Commission by Gerry http://www.haverhillcc.org/matthew-28/comment-page-1/#comment-25 Gerry Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:25:47 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=84#comment-25 Pastor Danny, New year, new start! Looking forwards to all that is before us. Thanks, and we will be in prayer for all of you at HCC. grace and peace. Gerry Pastor Danny,
New year, new start! Looking forwards to all that
is before us. Thanks, and we will be in prayer
for all of you at HCC.
grace and peace. Gerry

]]> Comment on (Sermon) Mark 3:1-12 – Beholding Jesus Part 4 by pops http://www.haverhillcc.org/mark-31-12/comment-page-1/#comment-11 pops Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:13:50 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=67#comment-11 Great Danny! ............ Critique ................... Emblished adjectives in the 'Word' are great.... When Jesus spoke, the world turned upside down.... Would like to here more of what He said to sinners like me............(scripture) Thanks Dan........luvpops Great Danny!
…………
Critique
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Emblished adjectives in the ‘Word’ are great….

When Jesus spoke, the world turned upside down….

Would like to here more of what He said to sinners like me…………(scripture)

Thanks Dan……..luvpops

]]> Comment on (Sermon) Mark 2:13-17 – Beholding Jesus Part 3 by danny http://www.haverhillcc.org/mark-213-17/comment-page-1/#comment-3 danny Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:42:30 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=54#comment-3 Thanks for the encouragement...would love to hear what sort of questions and have some fellowship and prayer around this. God is very merciful to us @ HCC, huh? love what He's doing! danny Thanks for the encouragement…would love to hear what sort of questions and have some fellowship and prayer around this.
God is very merciful to us @ HCC, huh? love what He’s doing!
danny

]]> Comment on (Sermon) Mark 2:13-17 – Beholding Jesus Part 3 by Connie Gilford http://www.haverhillcc.org/mark-213-17/comment-page-1/#comment-2 Connie Gilford Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:45:14 +0000 http://www.haverhillcc.org/?p=54#comment-2 Hi Danny, Just listened to yesterday's message. So great. I have to tell you, this message spawned some questions in my heart/mind. I'm still chewing on it. Have a great day Danny:) Hi Danny,
Just listened to yesterday’s message. So great. I have to tell you, this message spawned some questions in my heart/mind. I’m still chewing on it.

Have a great day Danny:)

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